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they want tougher laws against people who legally buy guns and then sell them to people who can't. they want better coordination between the federal, state, and local governments. they want smart, safe, responsible gun legislation. and we can have that. there's a majority support for banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. and as the president said, as the vice president said, rather, if you a high-capacity magazine of ten or more bullets to shoot a deer, you're in the wrong sport. >> sir, one thing that has been interested is to hear the voices when they're coming out of the woodwork about what side they're falling on. governor of new jersey chris christie has had an interesting approach after seeing the nra ad that targeted the president's kids. take a listen. >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have not by their own choice, but by requirement to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is reprehensible. >> obviously being a lobbying institution trying to make sure that gun manufacture
they want tougher laws against people who legally buy guns and then sell them to people who can't. they want better coordination between the federal, state, and local governments. they want smart, safe, responsible gun legislation. and we can have that. there's a majority support for banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. and as the president said, as the vice president said, rather, if you a high-capacity magazine of ten or more bullets to shoot a deer, you're in the wrong sport....
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not a rejection of religion but talking about laws here. >> yeah. we are. one of the things you see from this president and this commission that biden had is they're reaching out to faith leaders to have them to be a part of the conversation. >> not telling them to pray. they're saying talk to your people, go to the church and get the laus. you know? >> that's right. but i do think perry's statements, you're from texas. i'm from south carolina. i think it is a reach for some of these folks in these states, red state democrats to figure out how to talk about this legislation. you saw from the president. he didn't say gun control. he talked about gun violence. and they're very much making the point that this isn't about taking people's guns away. it's about reducing gun violence. i do think he'll have to sit down with senators like kay hagen, senators like mark pry you your up for re-election to talk about this. i think, also, that even if the president loses on the assault weapons ban, he wins because this is where the country is going on guns. you look at m
not a rejection of religion but talking about laws here. >> yeah. we are. one of the things you see from this president and this commission that biden had is they're reaching out to faith leaders to have them to be a part of the conversation. >> not telling them to pray. they're saying talk to your people, go to the church and get the laus. you know? >> that's right. but i do think perry's statements, you're from texas. i'm from south carolina. i think it is a reach for some...
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there is nothing touching our nation's gun laws. there isn't even the whiff of a suggestion that you may register gun owners or that you may increase background checks. >> sure. pro-choice groups were opposed that stuff for this this very reason before it happened. they were opposed to restrictions precisely because they feared that it could curb access. >> in an interesting turn of events, you think that the gun lobby is taking its cues from the pro-choice -- >> i think liberal issues work this way. you attack. you draw a very hard line. well back of where you would be willing to settle for because you fear that if you shift things a little bit, you start tumbling down the slippery slope, and i think that's really unfortunate because it prevents a lot of good policymaking, and it prevents -- it increases the language and the partisanship and the extremism and makes it very hard to kind of develop common ground because everyone is so afraid that if i give up anything, that doesn't mean that, like, we've settled on a deal, and this i
there is nothing touching our nation's gun laws. there isn't even the whiff of a suggestion that you may register gun owners or that you may increase background checks. >> sure. pro-choice groups were opposed that stuff for this this very reason before it happened. they were opposed to restrictions precisely because they feared that it could curb access. >> in an interesting turn of events, you think that the gun lobby is taking its cues from the pro-choice -- >> i think...
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you can take the federal immigration law as a good example of sheriffs and local law enforcement around the country are not required nor are they supposed to enforce those types of laws. so it is a separation of power, and it's my position that the linn county sheriff's office that myself or my deputies, that we enforce that regulation. >> you don't have to enforce a federal law, so what is the point of writing the vice president about this, haven't you stripped away your own power by automatically saying that. >> what i was talking about my own citizens were asking myself and my deputies what my position was on this and i needed to make it known to them and it became more and more questions were asked so instead of just having my deputy answer for me, i decided i would put this out and let them know and also i didn't hear why the information coming out of vice president biden's committee as far as what some of the proposals may be and i didn't see a lot of, you know, participation or outreach to sheriffs and law enforcement out west, especially in my case pacific west. it sure wasn't a
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if he thinks this laws are good, then go through congress. he's not a king. >> that is the kind of lie being told by the house of representatives new allen west. this is texas republican named steve stockman. here is what the republican had to say about the issues just seven years ago. >> i think we ought to extend the assault weapons ban and was told the bill was never going to move because republicans and democrats were against the ban. i believe law abiding citizen ought to be able to own a gun. and i believe in back ground check s . >>> and then there was ronald reagan, stephen rosen feld writes. and former nixon speechwriter wrote in 1999. >> joining me now joe klein, journalist for time magazine. joe, how did the republicans come to this extremist point from what we have heard to president george w. bush resigning? there are a couple of things going on here. they are coming to an end. which is good news for the rest of us. there has been a 30 year drift since reagan to the right in the republican party. reagan when he made those stateme
if he thinks this laws are good, then go through congress. he's not a king. >> that is the kind of lie being told by the house of representatives new allen west. this is texas republican named steve stockman. here is what the republican had to say about the issues just seven years ago. >> i think we ought to extend the assault weapons ban and was told the bill was never going to move because republicans and democrats were against the ban. i believe law abiding citizen ought to be...
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meanwhile the first gun law passed in new york this week. joining me now, one of the backers, state senate andrea stuart cousins, senator cousin can ins good to see you. >> good to be here. given the national outcry, what does this legislation, what does it mean to you and how does it compare proposals that that we saw from the president this week? >> i think it means a great deal. it says what the american people want us to say. it says that we heard that we can do common sense things and that is what we have done. clearly, the president has rolled out something that is exactly what we passed in new york. it's a ban on assault weapons, he is asking for, he is asking for a background check. certainly these are common sense things and i am hoping that the progressive actions of new york, certainly under the leadership of governor cuomo and all of my democratic colleagues, we will set the stage for a conversation about passing common sense gun laws. >> the president may have trouble within his own party. some democratic lawmakers already waffl
meanwhile the first gun law passed in new york this week. joining me now, one of the backers, state senate andrea stuart cousins, senator cousin can ins good to see you. >> good to be here. given the national outcry, what does this legislation, what does it mean to you and how does it compare proposals that that we saw from the president this week? >> i think it means a great deal. it says what the american people want us to say. it says that we heard that we can do common sense...
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it's defined in the criminal procedure law. that's what it is. it's enough already. >> it's hard to see how they can openly fix it by saying we just can't talk about it at all. i mean, i think you see some of the them -- you saw bobby jindahl do something interesting. nothing came out, and he said contraception ought to be easily available over-the-counter. that's his new policy pitch. i think they're going to have to find, particularly the guys running for president and mostly guys like actual positive issues, not just we can't talk about this stuff. >> and, you p, hopefully the current -- the 113th congress is going to be there are historic mof women, which is a great thing, in terms of actually getting women's voices in on this, but empowering advocates, giving them a bigger platform, and encouraging other women to speak. 350,000 women in your professional circle is the number of women that die of heart disease every year. >> absolutely. >> that's a testament to something. >> and a person running the national day of service is a young woman na
it's defined in the criminal procedure law. that's what it is. it's enough already. >> it's hard to see how they can openly fix it by saying we just can't talk about it at all. i mean, i think you see some of the them -- you saw bobby jindahl do something interesting. nothing came out, and he said contraception ought to be easily available over-the-counter. that's his new policy pitch. i think they're going to have to find, particularly the guys running for president and mostly guys like...
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enforcement officers if they enforce the law. the people who sometimes put their lives on the line to protect us. and we're talking about in such disregard. this is what happened back in the '90s when the same crowd was talking about jack buddha thugs and it led, in some ways, toward oklahoma city. this could be heading towards frightening times with this sort of rhetoric. >> let me say this. this is the anniversary year of the march on washington, dr. martin luther king, who his holiday will be on monday when the president is inaugurated. in the famous speech he made, i have a dream, he referred to a governor whose lips drifts with the words of interposition and nullification. that is the words that we're hearing dripping from lips today. interposition and nullification. maybe when they said the president was trying to be a king, maybe they were talking about martin luther king. toure, david, thanks for your time tonight. and be sure to catch toure on "the cycle." >>> coming up, it's day 2 of the big gop unity retreat. a time fo
enforcement officers if they enforce the law. the people who sometimes put their lives on the line to protect us. and we're talking about in such disregard. this is what happened back in the '90s when the same crowd was talking about jack buddha thugs and it led, in some ways, toward oklahoma city. this could be heading towards frightening times with this sort of rhetoric. >> let me say this. this is the anniversary year of the march on washington, dr. martin luther king, who his holiday...
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>> there's the world war i era law? >> espionage. >> this is a very different case. >> he is operating under this broad theory that you can basically kind of shut down the workings of government and create this kind of anarchy in a world where you can't give secrets. >> they're obviously trying to make an example of him. he is a high-profile case. you saw that, for instance, with napster. you see that with michael vick trying to make an example out of him. i do also think, though, i mean, what i have been most struck by is the talk about mental illness. didn't know him. i know you knew him. that also seems to be an opportunity to talk about what happened with him. he obviously committed suicide, had all of this pressure from these possible prosecution, and i think this is obviously an opportunity to talk about the ravages of mental illness. >> aaron wrote honestly and persuasively about suffering debilitating episodes of depression on his blog. i think in the wake of the -- i think when i got the news about aaron, it wa
>> there's the world war i era law? >> espionage. >> this is a very different case. >> he is operating under this broad theory that you can basically kind of shut down the workings of government and create this kind of anarchy in a world where you can't give secrets. >> they're obviously trying to make an example of him. he is a high-profile case. you saw that, for instance, with napster. you see that with michael vick trying to make an example out of him. i do...
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concerned advocacy about how concerned we are about these guys lead to legislation which led to law to something that needed a solution. this is the way that it needs to go. it sometimes seems impossible, but it worked, it worked for the chimps the least. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. have a great night. john kerry began his confirmation hearing today with absolutely no intension of embarrassing the republicans in the foreign relations committee. so, they had to embarrass themselves. >> the american people deserve to know answers. >> we were missled. >> what difference does it make? >> by the competitive nature of politics. >> i'm happy for you. >> they determined an effective representative. >> my senior senator and my friend, senator john kerry. >> suddenly i'm feeling a lot of sympathy for the folks who sit down here. >> some things don't change. >> if you are trying to get some daylight between me and secretary clinton that is not going to happen here today. >> we do know what happened. were you at the briefing with the tapes? >> that is not going to hap
concerned advocacy about how concerned we are about these guys lead to legislation which led to law to something that needed a solution. this is the way that it needs to go. it sometimes seems impossible, but it worked, it worked for the chimps the least. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. have a great night. john kerry began his confirmation hearing today with absolutely no intension of embarrassing the republicans in the foreign relations committee. so, they had to...
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laws illegal. he also doesn't believe in the ban on high capacity magazines because criminals could still get their hands on them. he said this week, quote, if they want a 30-round clip, they're going to get it in brazil or the soviet union. self-protecting citizens won't have that right, criminals will. soviet union? how about keeping up with the class here. we got to look at this. here is david keene, who i have known for years. he's a hard conservative. here he is on "cbs this morning" talking about background checks. in this area i think people right, left, and center with any kind of rational sense know we have to do something. don't let criminals, don't let people with court-ordered mental situations where they have been ordered not to do things or been under watch to get ahold of guns. let's watch david keene on "cbs this morning." >> we want to see the proposal, but as a general proposition, the nra has been very supportive of doing background checks on purchasers through the instant system
laws illegal. he also doesn't believe in the ban on high capacity magazines because criminals could still get their hands on them. he said this week, quote, if they want a 30-round clip, they're going to get it in brazil or the soviet union. self-protecting citizens won't have that right, criminals will. soviet union? how about keeping up with the class here. we got to look at this. here is david keene, who i have known for years. he's a hard conservative. here he is on "cbs this...
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and there are several of the executive orders that appear as if he's writing new law. that cannot happen. >> no, it's rand paul to the rescue. he has a bill to reverse all of president obama's executive actions. talking points memo obtained senator paul's proposal. there is no mention of a single order in violation of the constitution. not one. maybe these righties just don't know enough about the constitution. perhaps there is someone who could help them out. let's try former bush attorney general michael mukasey. >> it seems to be by definition an abuse of power, a power grab, if you will. no? >> it is -- politically it is a power grab, yes. >> politically is it then unconstitutional in some instances? >> i don't think it's unconstitutional in the sense that i don't think it's something you that could get a court to find unconstitutional. >> uh-oh. it's not the answer hannity was looking for. maybe he should try asking it in a different way. >> so did you think that obama care was unconstitutional? >> did i? >> did you agree with the majority opinion? >> the supreme
and there are several of the executive orders that appear as if he's writing new law. that cannot happen. >> no, it's rand paul to the rescue. he has a bill to reverse all of president obama's executive actions. talking points memo obtained senator paul's proposal. there is no mention of a single order in violation of the constitution. not one. maybe these righties just don't know enough about the constitution. perhaps there is someone who could help them out. let's try former bush...
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our poll shows 56% favor tighter gun control laws, 52% want illegal immigrants who hold jobs to apply for legal status. so, liz, what are his second term priorities going to be? what are we going to hear from him? >> well, look, i think he's already signaled what they're going to be. he's made it very clear that big immigration package is going to be put together. he feels a need to address gun control in the wake of newtown. and, you know, he's going to have to face the tax issue, as well. it's not just raising the debt ceiling that he's going to have to deal with. but he's going to have to negotiate with the republicans and perhaps try to change the tax code. all of these things are things he's already signaled he wants to do. what's fascinating is that this is a president who wanted to be a domestic president in the last -- in his first term and he was saddled with an economic situation and two wars to deal with. now is a shot to be that domestic president and make some really big change. but he's going to have to work with republicans in the house in order to get big things accomp
our poll shows 56% favor tighter gun control laws, 52% want illegal immigrants who hold jobs to apply for legal status. so, liz, what are his second term priorities going to be? what are we going to hear from him? >> well, look, i think he's already signaled what they're going to be. he's made it very clear that big immigration package is going to be put together. he feels a need to address gun control in the wake of newtown. and, you know, he's going to have to face the tax issue, as...
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take a lisb to this. >> we have a law. it's called the budget act. it requires that congress passes a budget. by april 15th. all we're saying is, congress, follow the law. >> this bill, in my view, is an irresponsible waste of our time. this bill kicks the can down the road for 90 days. if that's our premise, we are holding hostage policy in an undemocratic dictatorial fashion. gr for four years, nearly four years, the united states senate has not done a budget. and so this bill before us is real simple. it says, congress, if you don't do a budget, you don't get paid. >> this is institutionalized bribery is extortion. it should never be considered. >> do you agree with steny hoyer had to say about holding policy hostage and this is kicking the can down the road? >> we introduced legislation last week that was a clean no budget no pay piece. i think we should have a clean debt ceiling extension and the fact they coupled it together probably is not how i would have introduced legislation. that said, our job is putting together a responsible budget. tha
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. >> he's already abused the law enough times that it's just been staggering. the american revolution was all about fighting such a monarchy. >> we want all tools available to use, including that impeachment. >> with that kind of congressional opposition to the president, it was no sweat for nra president david keene to dismiss the president's initiatives as nothing but a grab bag of liberal feel-goodies. >> this is all sort of makes you feel good, but, in fact, it doesn't do much. >> he's confident saying that because the nra has spared no expense in quarterbacking all research on firearms and their impact on society. that is when they're not using their resources to target the president's daughters. in a new ad calling the president an elitist hypocrite for sending his daughter to a school with armed guards. an ad "the washington post" fact checker awarded a whopping four pinocchios. far from being elitist the relatively small force of unarmed security guards at sidwell is not unusual for a school of its size. moreover, the ad also suggests that obama rejects
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. >> and similarly, you've got this very tough new new york state anti-gun or gun control law that andrew cuomo pushed through and signed. is that going to be more of a solution to your problems in new york city and in urban areas, or does that still not go far enough because of the secondary markets and the fact that the guns are coming right across the border from neighboring states? >> i think it's going to be a help, but, again, as i say, 90% of our guns come from out of state. that's why we need a national approach. we need a federal plan. otherwise, we're still going to be playing with guns coming from all over. they come over the iron pipeline. 95, highway 95, coming up from southern states. these are guns that are landing on our doorstep, and they're killing new yorkers. now, last year as you showed me your graphic, we had the lowest mof mrdz we had in new york in at least 50 years, and we're proud of that, but there's still far too many of them. >> and, of course, your fellow cities, i mean, chicago has been plagued with homicides. homicides involving children, young people. this
. >> and similarly, you've got this very tough new new york state anti-gun or gun control law that andrew cuomo pushed through and signed. is that going to be more of a solution to your problems in new york city and in urban areas, or does that still not go far enough because of the secondary markets and the fact that the guns are coming right across the border from neighboring states? >> i think it's going to be a help, but, again, as i say, 90% of our guns come from out of state....
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. >> we're going to make changes to gun laws. i think we'll do some on a national basis and we're clearly already starting it on a state by state basis. so i'm there is going to be a level of success. it's locked in and i think you have to put that into -- i know it's hard for what people in washington to think that something might actually be gotten done but it's going do happen. this newtown changed discussion and whatever is not gotten in the first round, eventually will be gotten because there's going to be more newtowns. we're so far extended on access to weapons of mass destruction that there are going to be other incidention. >> we were looking in the wrong place, right? >> right. >> who would -- you're right. they are here. you know? and when a disturbed individual can take two magazines, 30-round magazines, tape them together so he literally -- all he had to do was turn it around and get another 30 shots off and have multiples of those as you walk into a school, that's who we are right now and america's growing sick of i
. >> we're going to make changes to gun laws. i think we'll do some on a national basis and we're clearly already starting it on a state by state basis. so i'm there is going to be a level of success. it's locked in and i think you have to put that into -- i know it's hard for what people in washington to think that something might actually be gotten done but it's going do happen. this newtown changed discussion and whatever is not gotten in the first round, eventually will be gotten...
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, you're violating state laws. we went through this with the arizona immigration case. the states cannot enact laws that overtake the supremacy clause of federal laws that are passed, and, two, this argument that the nra and others keep making that you're encroaching on the second amendment is just false. the one case they rely on is the heller case. all heller says is you have a right to have a handgun in your household. scalia and the conservatives there invited congress and state legislatures to do the kinds of things obama is doing today. people who make the argument have no idea what they're talking about. >> ironically president obama, a constitutional scholar and scalia are in the same place on this issue. yes, you have the right, but not without responsibilities. okay. dr. peterson -- >> yes. >> i don't know if it gets more bizarre than this. i feel like every day there's a new bizarre from rush limbaugh. he has taken a very strange twist in his defense of gun enthusiasts. he's now claiming that they are th
, you're violating state laws. we went through this with the arizona immigration case. the states cannot enact laws that overtake the supremacy clause of federal laws that are passed, and, two, this argument that the nra and others keep making that you're encroaching on the second amendment is just false. the one case they rely on is the heller case. all heller says is you have a right to have a handgun in your household. scalia and the conservatives there invited congress and state...
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on wednesday the president proposed a package of gun law reforms in response to the massacre in newtown last month. the package is by all accounts the most sweeping attempt to curb gun violence at the national level since 1994. the president took a number of executive actions immediately but the most contentious members including a proposed limit on ammunition magazines, stronger background checks and reinstatement of assault weapons ban will be left for congress to decide. >> these are some of executive actions i am announcing today. as important as these steps are they are in no way a substitute for action from members of congress. to make a real and lasting difference, congress, too, must act. and congress must act soon. >> all right. we have heard a lot about the political strength of the nra. there was a lot of discussion about whether the president would follow up the speech, the moving speech at the memorial with some kind of executive and legislative component and so i guess my first question to you is how -- what were you anticipating you would see from the president? was this
on wednesday the president proposed a package of gun law reforms in response to the massacre in newtown last month. the package is by all accounts the most sweeping attempt to curb gun violence at the national level since 1994. the president took a number of executive actions immediately but the most contentious members including a proposed limit on ammunition magazines, stronger background checks and reinstatement of assault weapons ban will be left for congress to decide. >> these are...
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it has one of the toughest gun laws in the country. i'd like his opinion. and instead the first thing you hear out of him are thinks thoughts on this ad. i just think it really kind of cheapened the debate and cheapened his influence. he had a real opportunity there and he squandered it. >> yeah. it's not the first thing he said about the thing. i mean, he was here with us. you know, he went after gun control. >> it was what the media seized on because here you have a republican going after the nra. >> that's us. that's not christie. >> sure, but he's aware of that. he's aware of what he says and how it's going to be taken. he knew what he was doing when he came out so strongly against that ad. and i think it really muted whatever other sentiments, whether i agree with them or not, about gun control. >> what do you disagree with him on? >> oh, well, you know, as a gun rights advocate, i disagree that banning wide categories of guns is either effective -- >> but not the ad. do you find that ad reprehensible? >> oh, reprehensible? no. i think they were making
it has one of the toughest gun laws in the country. i'd like his opinion. and instead the first thing you hear out of him are thinks thoughts on this ad. i just think it really kind of cheapened the debate and cheapened his influence. he had a real opportunity there and he squandered it. >> yeah. it's not the first thing he said about the thing. i mean, he was here with us. you know, he went after gun control. >> it was what the media seized on because here you have a republican...
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labor analysts cited new laws in states like wisconsin and indiana and the expansion of companies in nonunion states. >> "the seattle times," a battery like the one in boeing 787 dreamliner exploded in a lab in 2006. setting off a volatile fire that destroyed the building in which it was housed. the u.s. and european fleets of dreamliners have been temporarily grounded until technical issues are resolved including problems with lithium batteries that have caught fire. >> i think that's probably a good idea. >> going to be a long time before mika gets on a 787. >> let's look at "politico." joining us with a look at the "playbook," executive editor jim vandehei. good morning. >> good morning. a special treat for you today. in solidarity with my dear friend beyonce, i'm going to lip-sync my analysis. >> mika did that the other day. >> i tried. it didn't work so well. i still don't get it, willie. >> were you offended that she perhaps lip-synced? >> she lip-synced. >> i know, but what do you not get? it's not yo-yo ma four years ago. >> i have a problem with all of it. >> do you really?
labor analysts cited new laws in states like wisconsin and indiana and the expansion of companies in nonunion states. >> "the seattle times," a battery like the one in boeing 787 dreamliner exploded in a lab in 2006. setting off a volatile fire that destroyed the building in which it was housed. the u.s. and european fleets of dreamliners have been temporarily grounded until technical issues are resolved including problems with lithium batteries that have caught fire. >> i...
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we have to put this into law and make sure this happens going forward. we'll see if they uphold the deal. can you imagine four years without a budget? no wonder the government has had no progress. there's no budget. >> the president -- and it starts today -- has to be able to lead the american people in a way to say, look, we have to transcend politics. realize medicare is a huge problem. he's got to be able to convince his own party but also do something that frankly americans don't want done, which is to have to give back some things. that's the only way we get to some of those goals. those are the big leadership moments that the president still has to seize. he's got more confidence. he's got a united party. he's got this second-term opportunity. it's not a full four years, but there's an opportunity to go big on some of this. >> i think the president would say, though, that before asking everybody to give up a whole bunch on medicare that he had to first establish a principle that the wealthier are going to pay a bit more, have been paying less than
we have to put this into law and make sure this happens going forward. we'll see if they uphold the deal. can you imagine four years without a budget? no wonder the government has had no progress. there's no budget. >> the president -- and it starts today -- has to be able to lead the american people in a way to say, look, we have to transcend politics. realize medicare is a huge problem. he's got to be able to convince his own party but also do something that frankly americans don't want...